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Two houses in Roydene Road

Jane Funnell asks:

I am doing some research on a building (now two houses) in Roydene Road, Plumstead and I wondered if any of your contributors remember the building. It is about half way down Roydene on the right-hand side coming from Sladedale. It is set back from the road between the terrace of nos. 46 and 50. I believe it was most recently a car repair shop but formerly a haulage depot and before that stables.

I have had limited luck with my research and would appreciate anything anyone could contribute.


Royal Arsenal Cooperative Society

Lorna Chudasama asks if anyone has more information on the Royal Arsenal Co-operative Society:


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This lovely old photo is on a used postcard dated Dec 28 1906. The wording high on the Building is Royal Arsenal Co-operative Soc. Ltd and above shop fronts is the wording Butchers Department, Grocery & Provisions, Drapery & Hosiery. I haven't been able to establish precisely when it opened or its exact location in Woolwich or whether indeed the building still stands. I would suspect however, that it was the Co-operative Store where my grandmother shopped (with the disapproval of my grandfather for whatever reason I don't know but probably political) and valued the dividends.

I have learned that in 1760 co-operative corn mills were built in Woolwich by dock workers. The dock workers objected to the high prices charged by mill owners who often supplied adulterated flour. Quoting from publishers Adam Matthews:
"Woolwich features significantly in the history of co-operative action. The first Co-operative cornmill was founded there in 1760 (well before the births of Robert Owen (1771-1858) and George Holyoake (1817-1906), the founding fathers of the British Co-operative movement) and traded successfully for over 80 years. Less successful ventures included a Co-operative butcher's shop (1805-1811); the Woolwich Bakery Society (1842); a Co-operative Coal Society (1845); the Woolwich Co-operative Provident Society (1851); and the Woolwich and Plumstead Co-operative Society (1860). But these all showed that the idea of co-operative action was alive in Woolwich and paved the way for the establishment of the Royal Arsenal Co-operative Society [henceforth RACS] (founded in 1868 as the Royal Arsenal Supply Association, renamed as the RACS in 1872)".


One of the links for more information surrounding the co-operative societies background is as follows:

www.adam-matthew-publications.co.uk/digital_guides/labour_history

My mother was looking at the postcard yesterday (24/4/2007) but didn't recognise it. She told me that quite often when they were living in the Army flats, she and her sister Winnie were sent to the Co-op to do the shopping. One day, on their way back with heavy bags, three young boys followed them and calmly helped themselves to the contents of the shopping bags. My mother and her sister were too frightened to do anything. They weren't scolded for losing the groceries but they were never sent again. Presumably the Co-op where my grandmother shopped was within walking distance from Artillery Place.


Plumstead High Street - Austin's Sweet shop

I'm looking for old photo's of Plumstead High Street, c 1900, as my Great Grand Parents had a shop along there, but no one has any photo's of the area in our family. It was a sweet shop and their surname was Austin' - Helen Jones

If you can help in any way please email Colin


The Four Aces

Pete Fisk wants to know if anyone can help him with this question;

"It is said that my grandfather, Joseph Charles Howard, had a cafe just outside the Woolwich Arsenal in the early 1930s (possibly earlier) called 'The Four Aces ' (or similar).

Apparently it was along the Arsenal wall somewhere. It could have been a permanent business with a proper address or, maybe, some sort of a mobile establishment, such as a caravan cafe.

I'm not familiar with the area, so if my description is sketchy it is because it is only passed-down information from my mother and I am, sadly, no longer able to update this information.

If you can possibly help in any way please email Colin


Old Woolwich House

Does any one have any idea of what the attached building is/was? And any story behind it? Its on Beresford St. (I think) and is in Woolwich area.


Paul Talling (www.derelictlondon.com)

If you can possibly help in any way please email Colin


Clisby's General Store


Photo: Janet Gardner (nee Clisby)

My Dad Cyril Clisby and his brother Tom, taken outside the shop their parents owned in Plumstead in the 1920's,
I am not sure of the name of the road it was in, but Villiers Place comes to mind. All I can remember is if you went down Vicarage Park, you seem to be continually walking down hill until you came to a parade of shops.'

If anyone recognizes the shop and can remember where it was situated could they please let Colin know.

 

Janet Gardner (nee Clisby) asks;

Barnfield Gardens

Our family, (Cyril Clisby was my Dad) moved into Cowan House, Barnfield Gardens, when it had just been completed in 1947, our family then moved to Slough in 1958.

I would be really interested to see if anybody remembers living there at Cowan House over the period we lived there.
My two brothers and my two sisters, between us we can remember a lot of the families that lived in Cowan House over that span of years between 1947 and 1958.

If anyone has any recollections please contact Colin.



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